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AKgrrrl's avatar

Spires bringing electricity thru the aether, tightly constructed stone structures with elegant detail and design, a fully constructed city from a previous empire because it just.doesnt.add.up.

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Jordan Nuttall's avatar

It certainly seems that way friend.

Great comment, thank you.

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Monica's avatar

I’m so happy you brought our attention to a past that appears top have been hidden from us. There are many questions to be answered, such as the purpose of those beautiful spires reaching the skies; why so many, and what is depicted arising from them? How could such advanced and truly lovely architecture have been created and yet there is no evidence of plumbing for the basic necessity of toilets? Why are there no chimneys belching out their smoke? Everything looks pristine and orderly.

Lots of questions. It seems that history is not as we’ve been taught, far from it.

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Jordan Nuttall's avatar

I’m glad you enjoyed this one Monica, I got the inspiration from the image with the streaks, that itself is very odd.

From my research, it seems we inherited a lot of structures, and they give a nod to that by stating some buildings were founded, not constructed.

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Amaterasu Solar's avatar

They sure are awesome, those images. Pretty clear something historical was lost. A “reset” wiping away what was…

Thanks for the examination of these things!

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Jordan Nuttall's avatar

My pleasure Amaterasu, I find it most fascinating, especially paired with the dates of inventions.

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Amaterasu Solar's avatar

Indeed. I want to know how They managed a reset…. I bet They’re working on another one.

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Jordan Nuttall's avatar

Have you looked into cloning?, like the orphan trains and incubator baby’s at the worlds fairs.

Cloning sounds far out and like fiction, but many examples have been demonstrated publicly.

Cloneaid on there websites states you can have yourself cloned.

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openyourmind's avatar

Have you looked at Trudi Verstegen work on her TG account FB 3 accounts and YouTube channel and she also has her own website for her research which is mainly in Dutch but does translation to English as she was educated in the UK and she goes deep into the cloning of people in the last few hundred years at least. She is fighting for the woman and children and has extensive knowledge and been in this thick of it all through her family's history. You'd probably find it interesting to have a look at some point when you have some spare time...

Yet another fabulous great read and in-depth methodical detailed article on the buildings and history of our country.

Really enjoyed it thanks John 👍

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Jordan Nuttall's avatar

I’ll check her out, thank you for the suggestion.

Thanks for your compliments too friends, it’s much appreciated.

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Amaterasu Solar's avatar

I have dabbled. Indeed it is quite interesting. But We still don’t know HOW They erased the history - in the minds of the People…

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Jordan Nuttall's avatar

It is very interesting, and you are right, I’m sure the answer will be quite incredible, and sad.

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Obi's avatar

A few considerations come to mind: First, these engravings were often aspirational or idealised representations rather than documentary photography. Artists of this period frequently emphasised grandeur and order while minimising chaos and imperfection - it was part of the artistic conventions of the time. The "impossibly clean" and organised appearance you note might be more about artistic choice than architectural reality.

Second, the absence of documented machinery doesn't necessarily mean sophisticated techniques weren't available. A significant amount of practical knowledge was passed down through craft guilds and master-apprentice relationships without formal documentation. Roman engineers accomplished remarkable feats with relatively simple tools, leveraging accumulated knowledge, precise mathematical understanding, and ingenious workarounds that we might not fully appreciate today.

That said, your core observation about the timing of various innovations is genuinely intriguing. The gap between when these structures were supposedly built and when the tools we'd expect were formally invented does warrant closer examination. Perhaps it suggests that our understanding of technological development in this period is incomplete, or that practical solutions existed before they were formally patented or documented.

Your article succeeds in making me look at these images with fresh eyes and question assumptions about historical capabilities - which is valuable regardless of the ultimate conclusions we draw.

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Jordan Nuttall's avatar

You’ve made some great points here Obi, definitely some food for thought, thank you.

I aimed to provoke thought with this article, and I’m glad it has done just that.

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Shannon Hugman's avatar

Love all the thought and work you put into your articles!

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Jordan Nuttall's avatar

Thank you Shannon! I’m glad I have friends like you that enjoy reading them!

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George Ziogas's avatar

This was fascinating, half history, half detective work. You made me question whether London was built by masons or magicians. Either way, I’ll never look at an old bridge the same again.

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Jordan Nuttall's avatar

That was exactly my goal, and your summarised it well, great to meet you George.

Looking forward to chatting to you more friend.

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Maryan Pelland Pen2Profit's avatar

Thanks for the link, Jordan. There’s a lot of fascinating info in here for people interested in construction, architecture, and history.

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Jordan Nuttall's avatar

You’re welcome Maryan, thank you for taking a moment to read!.

I’m glad you enjoyed it, I try to be very comprehensive, and detailed.

Thanks again for sharing your thoughts with me.

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Dingo Dave's avatar

I remember that view from the banks of the Thames (And yes, I know it's pronounced "Tems" LOL) from my visits over there... Actually, from where that picture was created, there's now a garden/park on the left side from the walkway, that I had a grand meeting/party at with several dozens of my British TikTok friends! Of course the BRIDGE is quite different, and there's newer and taller building on the left, but the basic view is STILL the same! Thanks for the memories!!

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Jordan Nuttall's avatar

You’re most welcome Dave! I’m glad my article struck up old memories.

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Dingo Dave's avatar

LOL HOPING I can get back to the Grand Old Isles next Spring or Summer… I love cisiting all my friends.. MY GAWD, the pubs there are SO much more fun that the disco-themed ones here!! LOL

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Jordan Nuttall's avatar

Nothing quite like an English boozer!

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David MacGregor's avatar

Hi Jordan

I saw your posts the other day

Including comments on hair style

I should have joined in

Loved your discussion today

Of deserted Edinburgh!

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Jordan Nuttall's avatar

Most appreciated David, thank you!.

Feel free to get involved with the next one brother, whatever it may be!.

It’s also nice to have more perspectives and opinions.

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Dumb Pollock's avatar

I’m an artist and I can tell you that art is telescoped life. It’s an eternal frustration for even Da Vinci or Michelangelo to capture with our imagination or reality with precise perfection. That’s why we use the camera a lot to get more details right. Yet, there is a such thing as too much reality. Chuck Close’s portraits, with pores and all, made the sitters look monstrous. Art requires simplification to work, to heighten the mood and uncanny effect. The subject needs a fairy touch to become romantic. It’s no different with those urban prints. They were an idealized vision of London.

Yet, all those mechanical inventions of English have fathers and grandfathers. They have pulleys and weighted threads and drawing and measurements to make London a city of brick and stone. David Macaulay did a lot of detailed children’s books on construction, covering the Cathedral or a Roman Town. You can see how it was done before steam engine. Men could calculate quickly in their head and the guilds for stonemasons and builders have their standards. The master pass on his knowledge to his apprentice in an unbroken chain of centuries. The boy is then plugged into his master’s network, accessing centuries of knowledge and obligations to give him a leg up. The skilled labor has been migrating since the end of the Black Death to meet the rising demand for their skill with far better pay than before. The pay which could be used to find time to improve one’s skill. The results speak for themselves. With a right set of skill, men could do the great buildings with little fanfare. Animal power can do a lot, just needs time.

It’s a great start. Just found some mistakes. One was the 1758 “Antique Print with Views of the London Bridge and the Westminster Bridge”print. You described it as showing pictures on the left and right. It’s showing a top and bottom views. The first print, “A General View Of The City of London” by Thomas Bowles III (1751)“. It’s hard to tell, but I don’t think they’re fireworks. They’re handwritten labels identifying which building is which. It’s a common practice for many cartoons during this period.

Not bad.

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Jordan Nuttall's avatar

What a great write up, thank you so much for adding your insights here.

As for the 1756 image, which one are you referring to friend as I’ve not uploaded any prints from that year in this article.

And for the image I described as having fireworks, I thought they were labels too, but the resources available to me point to them being fireworks.

Here is a 3d rendering of the print in question:

https://www.meisterdrucke.ie/fine-art-prints/English-School/452411/A-General-View-of-the-City-of-London.html

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Julie Cara Hoffenberg's avatar

“And in using our gift, pairing it with the tools at our disposal, we are able to notice things others overlook.

Contradictions. Inconsistencies. Little fractures in the story we’ve been told.”

Yes indeed, there are so many inconsistencies and contradictions. My wife and I have recently been exploring a lot of old world sites, including old “iron furnaces”. Some of them are nowhere near mines of any type. And zero of them have fire or burn marks from any of the activities we are told happened within them. Truths slowly reveal themselves, when we let go of absolutes and continue to question the narrative. Great article and engravings you presented!

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Jordan Nuttall's avatar

Thanks for dropping your thoughts Julie, I’d love to hear more about the adventures you and your partner are going on.

Once we have the eyes to see, deceit is everywhere.

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Jane Chapman's avatar

How interesting to view old London through postcards. Thanks for sharing.

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Jordan Nuttall's avatar

You’re most welcome Jane, thank you for dropping a comment.

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Yueyue Wang's avatar

The intro was funny! I didn't know you had a sense of humour, Jordan.

I heard spires conduct energy, maybe they’re leftovers from an older civilization?

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Jordan Nuttall's avatar

I have my moments Yueyue ;).

I’ve heard similar theories, and it seems plausible.

The theory’s gain more weight once you realise how far the government goes to hide free energy inventions, like Stan Meyer and his car that ran on water.

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interia hysteria's avatar

I used to live by London Bridge and find the history of the city of London so interesting what a wonderful read!

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Jordan Nuttall's avatar

I’m glad you found value in my work friend, it’s a beautifully vibrant city.

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Paul John Dear's avatar

Interesting piece. For what it’s worth, I think the vertical emmanationa on the first image are text. A google lens search shows the original image exists without the vertical ‘noise’. This looks like a postcard that someone has made notes on. Naming the buildings perhaps?

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Jordan Nuttall's avatar

The version you’re talking about, it’s a later rendition of the same print.

I had the one your referring to first, and i google image searched it to find a clearer resolution.

I then found the one I posted in this article.

Here’s a link to the original, it’s strange it got removed isn’t it.

https://www.meisterdrucke.ie/fine-art-prints/English-School/452411/A-General-View-of-the-City-of-London.html?fbclid=IwdGRleAN4DF9leHRuA2FlbQIxMQBzcnRjBmFwcF9pZAo2NjI4NTY4Mzc5AAEe5cCEcLiLqb68Nx7dGCXWN_-c8tdb--RQSUFB4hwauMAfgyPBK36HtNKdRnI_aem_6u_RfbbAeBEB7WYBrz5hnw

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Paul John Dear's avatar

Strange. The one you posted does, I believe, have hand written text as if the postcard was turned sideways and notated. The resolution does not allow for inspection with more clarity but if you look above St Paul’s Cathedral is is visible.

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Jordan Nuttall's avatar

Labels were the first assumption I had, it seems the most fitting.

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Rose's avatar

I know it's not the main point of your post, but the first part is so relatable... the despair of repetition. But your message also kind of reminded me that maybe repetition isn’t punishment but grace in disguise.

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Jordan Nuttall's avatar

Thank you for your comments Rose, tell me more about your perspective!

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Rose's avatar

You are welcome!

What I meant is that repetition can sometimes feel like failure, as if you’re stuck reliving the same lesson, pain, or moment. But if you look closer, it’s like grace giving you another chance to understand what you missed and to grow in patience. I personally think it’s life’s way of saying, “You’re not done learning this yet, but I’ll give you time.”

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Jordan Nuttall's avatar

Ah I see what you mean, you have a great mind Rose.

For me, I meant more so the reduction of the fluidity of daily life.

5 days work, 2 days off, unless we break out of the cycle, that’s what we will be doing for our entire lives, minus maybe 10-15 years retirement.

That’s the repetition I was referring to.

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Rose's avatar

Ah, that makes sense. Thanks for clarifying! Looking forward to your new posts. I’m learning a lot. 😇

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Jordan Nuttall's avatar

Thank you Rose! I look forward to hearing your future thoughts.

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Rose's avatar

Sure thing!

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Rose's avatar

You are welcome!

What I meant is that repetition can sometimes feel like failure, as if you’re stuck reliving the same lesson, pain, or moment. But if you look closer, it’s like grace giving you another chance to understand what you missed and to grow in patience. I personally think it’s life’s way of saying, “You’re not done learning this yet, but I’ll give you time.”

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